Another So Called Christian-zionist Wakens to anti-Christ Noahide Agenda

The Talmudic Shem Sham anti-Christ scam

http://cjcuc.com/site/2015/12/03/orthodox-rabbinic-statement-on-christianity/

Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity

December 3, 2015

To Do the Will of Our Father in Heaven:
Toward a Partnership between Jews and Christians

(Their father is the Murderer from the beginning, John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

After nearly two millennia of mutual hostility and alienation, we Orthodox Rabbis who lead communities, institutions and seminaries in Israel, the United States and Europe recognize the historic opportunity now before us. We seek to do the will of our Father in Heaven by accepting the hand offered to us by our Christian brothers and sisters. Jews and Christians must work together as partners to address the moral challenges of our era.

(Do not be deceived at their anti-Christ scheme. The falling away is ocurring rapidly now…RP)

2 Thessalonians 2(KJV)

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The Shoah ended 70 years ago. It was the warped climax to centuries of disrespect, oppression and rejection of Jews and the consequent enmity that developed between Jews and Christians. In retrospect it is clear that the failure to break through this contempt and engage in constructive dialogue for the good of humankind weakened resistance to evil forces of anti-Semitism that engulfed the world in murder and genocide.

We recognize that since the Second Vatican Council the official teachings of the Catholic Church about Judaism have changed fundamentally and irrevocably.

(Catholicos of Sanhedrin…http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/03/theyre-making-their-move.html )

 

The promulgation of Nostra Aetate fifty years ago started the process of reconciliation between our two communities. Nostra Aetate and the later official Church documents it inspired unequivocally reject any form of anti-Semitism, affirm the eternal Covenant between G-d and the Jewish people, reject deicide and stress the unique relationship between Christians and Jews, who were called “our elder brothers” by Pope John Paul II and “our fathers in faith” by Pope Benedict XVI. On this basis, Catholics and other Christian officials started an honest dialogue with Jews that has grown during the last five decades.

(Isaiah 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:)

We appreciate the Church’s affirmation of Israel’s unique place in sacred history and the ultimate world redemption. Today Jews have experienced sincere love and respect from many Christians that have been expressed in many dialogue initiatives, meetings and conferences around the world.

(Fallen away from the Truth in Righteousness….RP)

  1. As did Maimonides and Yehudah Halevi,[1] we acknowledge that Christianity is neither an accident nor an error, but the willed divine outcome and gift to the nations. In separating Judaism and Christianity, G-d willed a separation between partners with significant theological differences, not a separation between enemies. Rabbi Jacob Emden wrote that “Jesus brought a double goodness to the world. On the one hand he strengthened the Torah of Moses majestically… and not one of our Sages spoke out more emphatically concerning the immutability of the Torah. On the other hand he removed idols from the nations and obligated them in the seven commandments of Noah so that they would not behave like animals of the field, and instilled them firmly with moral traits…..Christians are congregations that work for the sake of heaven who are destined to endure, whose intent is for the sake of heaven and whose reward will not denied.”

(Do not be deceived by this serpents den of VIPERS of HELL….RP)

 

[2] Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch taught us that Christians “have accepted the Jewish Bible of the Old Testament as a book of Divine revelation. They profess their belief in the G-d of Heaven and Earth as proclaimed in the Bible and they acknowledge the sovereignty of Divine Providence.”[3] Now that the Catholic Church has acknowledged the eternal Covenant between G-d and Israel, we Jews can acknowledge the ongoing constructive validity of Christianity as our partner in world redemption, without any fear that this will be exploited for missionary purposes. As stated by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel’s Bilateral Commission with the Holy See under the leadership of Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen, “We are no longer enemies, but unequivocal partners in articulating the essential moral values for the survival and welfare of humanity”.[4] Neither of us can achieve G-d’s mission in this world alone.

 

(Matthew 8:

11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

Both Jews and Christians have a common covenantal mission to perfect the world under the sovereignty of the Almighty, so that all humanity will call on His name and abominations will be removed from the earth. We understand the hesitation of both sides to affirm this truth and we call on our communities to overcome these fears in order to establish a relationship of trust and respect. Rabbi Hirsch also taught that the Talmud puts Christians “with regard to the duties between man and man on exactly the same level as Jews.

(Blatant Lies, search google Babylon Talmud quotes against Christianity..RP)

They have a claim to the benefit of all the duties not only of justice but also of active human brotherly love.” In the past relations between Christians and Jews were often seen through the adversarial relationship of Esau and Jacob, yet Rabbi Naftali Zvi Berliner (Netziv) already understood at the end of the 19th century that Jews and Christians are destined by G-d to be loving partners: “In the future when the children of Esau are moved by pure spirit to recognize the people of Israel and their virtues, then we will also be moved to recognize that Esau is our brother.”[5]

(Isis a creation of Sanhedrin to slay Christians…RP)

We Jews and Christians have more in common than what divides us: the ethical monotheism of Abraham; the relationship with the One Creator of Heaven and Earth, Who loves and cares for all of us; Jewish Sacred Scriptures; a belief in a binding tradition; and the values of life, family, compassionate righteousness, justice, inalienable freedom, universal love and ultimate world peace.

(1 Thes. 5 :3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

 

Rabbi Moses Rivkis (Be’er Hagoleh) confirms this and wrote that “the Sages made reference only to the idolator of their day who did not believe in the creation of the world, the Exodus, G-d’s miraculous deeds and the divinely given law. In contrast, the people among whom we are scattered believe in all these essentials of religion.”[6]

Our partnership in no way minimizes the ongoing differences between the two communities and two religions. We believe that G-d employs many messengers to reveal His truth, while we affirm the fundamental ethical obligations that all people have before G-d that Judaism has always taught through the universal Noahide covenant.

( Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

In imitating G-d, Jews and Christians must offer models of service, unconditional love and holiness. We are all created in G-d’s Holy Image, and Jews and Christians will remain dedicated to the Covenant by playing an active role together in redeeming the world.

( Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.)

Initial signatories (in alphabetical order):

Rabbi Jehoshua Ahrens (Germany)
Rabbi Marc Angel (United States)
Rabbi Isak Asiel (Chief Rabbi of Serbia)
Rabbi David Bigman (Israel)
Rabbi David Bollag (Switzerland)
Rabbi David Brodman (Israel)
Rabbi Natan Lopez Cardozo (Israel)
Rav Yehudah Gilad (Israel)
Rabbi Alon Goshen-Gottstein (Israel)
Rabbi Irving Greenberg (United States)
Rabbi Marc Raphael Guedj (Switzerland)
Rabbi Eugene Korn (Israel)
Rabbi Daniel Landes (Israel)
Rabbi Steven Langnas (Germany)
Rabbi Benjamin Lau (Israel)
Rabbi Simon Livson (Chief Rabbi of Finland)
Rabbi Asher Lopatin (United States)
Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Israel)
Rabbi David Rosen (Israel)
Rabbi Naftali Rothenberg (Israel)
Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger (Israel)
Rabbi Shmuel Sirat (France)
Rabbi Daniel Sperber (Israel)
Rabbi Jeremiah Wohlberg (United States)
Rabbi Alan Yuter (Israel)

http://kehilanews.com/2015/12/09/a-response-to-orthodox-rabbinic-statement-on-christianity/

A Response to “Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity”

Editor’s Note: The author is responding to a public statement issued on December 3, 2015, by Orthodox Rabbis from Israel, US and Europe. Click here to read the statement.

Speaking to Gentile Believers about the Jewish People, Romans 11: 28-29 says;

“From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”

Many Philo-Semitic/Zionist Christians and Messianic Jews like the second part of that passage so much that they forget all about the first part.

This is the most common and also the most damaging error that we make, and it was on full display this week following the publication of a document modestly entitled the “Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity” (hereafter, the Statement) and signed by a number of prominent National Religious/Modern Orthodox rabbis in Israel, the US and Europe.

(Global anti-Christ Noahide enforcement of Lucifer underway…RP)

One Christian Zionist leader said she was “in tears” while reading the Statement because it represented such a breakthrough and the answer to so many prayers for “reconciliation” between Jews and Christians.

(Proselyte of the jews fables, anti-Christ unbeliever…RP)

From the number of times the link to the Statement was posted on the Facebook walls of my many Philo-Semitic/Zionist Christian friends around the world, usually accompanied by comments indicating that they agreed that it was something very positive and encouraging, it would appear that this sentiment is widely shared.

My reaction to the Statement was a bit different.

It DID include a lot of nice words which of course sound a lot better than the traditional mantra of “Christians are idol worshippers, polytheists, etc.”  But at the same time, I do not see the Statement as an effort by these rabbis to meet Christians halfway or be reconciled with us as co-laborers in the “work of Heaven” as they say it’s meant to be.

Here’s what I mean.

The crux of the Statement comes in point number three, where the authors quote the 18thCentury Rabbi Jacob Emden as saying about Jesus that He “brought a double goodness to the world. On the one hand he strengthened the Torah of Moses majestically… and not one of our Sages spoke out more emphatically concerning the immutability of the Torah. On the other hand he removed idols from the nations and obligated them in the seven commandments of Noah so that they would not behave like animals of the field, and instilled them firmly with moral traits…..Christians are congregations that work for the sake of heaven who are destined to endure, whose intent is for the sake of heaven and whose reward will not denied.”

This quote (which I’ll admit sounds very nice) characterizes Jesus as a great Rabbi and Torah sage. This is also pretty much how Rabbi Shmuely Boteach framed Him in his book “Kosher Jesus” which has been very popular among Christian Zionists.

John 7 (KJV)

After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

That’s all fine and good, except for one small problem.

The “Jesus” this quote praises (along with Boteach’s “Kosher Jesus”) is not the Jesus described in the New Testament. It’s an entirely different “Jesus” that these rabbis have built in their garage with bits and pieces of Talmudic traditions they find acceptable and, by implication, denying all the aspects they don’t accept.

There are fundamental issues like His Divinity, the virgin birth, the atonement for our sins, which He purchased by His death on the Cross, and His defeat of death by His resurrection, not to mention that trifling part about how He was the prophesied Messiah and the Son of God and that He ascended into Heaven and last but not least that He’s coming back someday soon to establish His Kingdom on this earth.

( I have found nowhere in scripture where Jesus the Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the image of the invisible Father, who arose and ascended to his Kingdom, will come back to earth and be a mere flesh man king, but that we are come unto Sion Gods holy mountain in Heaven, unto a company of innumerable angels, Hebrew 12….RP) They are falling right into the arms of the coming Man of Sin that Son of Perdition, False Christ of these jews, their Moshiach ben david the Sanhedrin Boast they will anoint as the King of the jews…RP)

What the Statement is really saying, if one reads between the lines, is that if we Christians can just lay aside all these “minor details” and join with them in admiring this fake “Jesus” they’ve cobbled together out of spare parts from their own favorite rabbis (perhaps including their own selves) then we can all be friends and join together in the work the rabbis say God wants us to do in this world (which they call “tikkun olam” and which is not found in the Bible, but that’s a subject for a different article.)

This would, necessarily, mean that we would then lay aside the work that God calls US to do, especially that part about sharing the Gospel with the Jewish People, which they specifically declare their (unsurprising) opposition to.

Many Christian Zionists, particularly those who have been working in this vineyard here in Jerusalem for many dry, lonely, difficult years, are willing to do all that in return for having even a tiny fraction of the massive amount of love and appreciation they’ve poured into the Jewish People reciprocated.

(Better flee into the mountains….RP)

I think we can all sympathize with that, and we should be gentle and patient with our brethren who are making this mistake. But we should also be firm in refusing to make the mistake ourselves. Because, actually, it’s more than a mistake.

The proper word for this is “apostasy”.

The other problem with this quote by Rabbi Jacob Emden is that it contains a blatant lie, that Jesus encouraged non-Jews to follow the 7 Noahide Laws. That’s wrong for a couple of different reasons, not least of which is that the 7 Noahide Laws weren’t codified until centuries after Jesus walked the earth, although there’s a convenient not-found-in-the-Bible “tradition” among the rabbis that God originally gave them to Adam.

But I’m getting ahead of myself. Some of you might not know exactly what the 7 Noahide Laws are.

From the Virtual Jewish Library;

The Noachide Laws are seven laws considered by rabbinic tradition as the minimal moral duties required by the Bible on all men. While Jews are obligated to observe the whole Torah – 613 commandments, every non-Jew is considered a “son of the covenant of Noah” and he who accepts these obligations is considered a righteous person who is guaranteed a place in the world to come.

The seven Noachide laws, as traditionally enumerated are:

Do Not Deny God
Do Not Blaspheme God
Do Not Murder
Do Not Engage in Incestuous, Adulterous or Homosexual Relationships.
Do Not Steal
Do Not Eat of a Live Animal
Establish Courts/Legal System to Ensure Law Obedience

Again, that sounds great right? It even sounds Biblical. But the problem is, as the opening paragraph says, these 7 laws offer non-Jews “a place in the world to come.”

In other words, the rabbis present these 7 Laws as an alternative path to Heaven, negating the need for non-Jews to accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross and flatly denying that this is even an option for Jews.

But, again, there’s no surprises here. The rabbis who originally penned these Laws in the Talmud and those who continue to promote them into modern times are acting precisely like what Paul said they would in Romans 11:28, that is “from the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake.”

Also worth noting, Titus 1:10-15 says;

“For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain. One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth.”

If there was EVER a textbook example of “Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth” it’s the 7 Noahide Laws and the Rabbinic “tradition” that they make the Cross irrelevant.

Jesus would not have been teaching anyone this kind of nonsense and the Apostle Paul specifically warned Christians against it. The rabbis, on the other hand, teach it and encourage it because they are opposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the teachings of the New Testament. They reject these teachings themselves and they think everyone else should too, especially Jews, but Gentiles as well.

We Christian Zionists need to get this through our heads!

The rabbis might be our friends (at least some of them) and they might be our partners in building the Zionist project here in the Land of Israel (even though, for the most part, they’re doing it for entirely different reasons than we are.)

But concerning the Gospel and things pertaining to Eternity they are NOT our allies. They are NOT on our side! They are on their own side, and their side is actively and unapologetically opposed to the side of the Gospel.

Yes, we share the Old Testament. But it means something TOTALLY different to us than it does to them, and they UTTERLY REJECT the New Testament. Rejection of the New Testament is actually a CORNERSTONE of Rabbinic Judaism and this is obvious from the fact that they have built a massive body of Rabbinic Literature which is devoted to mocking, deriding and heaping scorn on the New Testament.

To truly meet us halfway, which would necessarily include an acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the New Testament, is simply not possible for them if they want to stay faithful to all they profess to believe.

The rabbis, including the authors of the “Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity” do not pretend that this is not the case.

We need to stop our own self-deception about this and face reality!

The Statement contains many other bits which are DIRECT contradictions and repudiations of the teachings found in the New Testament, including the very words of Jesus Christ. I won’t enumerate them here because then this article would go on and on and no one would read it all. Maybe someone else will do that.

But, again, this should not surprise anyone because the rabbis who composed this document are simply acting as Romans 11:28 said they would, and are, and will.

In conclusion, if we truly are disciples of Jesus of Nazareth and Believers in the New Covenant we do not need, nor should we seek, the approval and acceptance of these rabbis who would like nothing better than to see us deny, ignore, compromise and rationalize the message of the New Testament and embrace their Talmudic myths and fairy tales, especially the Noahide Laws.

We need to remember why we came here in the first place and what our Lord and Savior commissioned us to do. We are to love, serve, work, bleed, laugh, cry and in some cases die alongside the Jewish People as they fulfill the plans and purposes God has for them in this Land.

But we also need to avoid getting distracted from the Main Thing. The first step in that process is to never forget that one of the primary goals these rabbis have in life is to distract us from the Main Thing.

In other words, we need to remember the first part of Romans 11:28-29 just as much as we remember the second part.

The author works for a Christian ministry based in Jerusalem which is still trying to decide how it will respond to the “Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity” and has not authorized its staff to publicly comment on it.

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2 thoughts on “Another So Called Christian-zionist Wakens to anti-Christ Noahide Agenda

  1. There is the fundamental reason why the Creator said a NEW covenant I will make with the house of Israel and the house of Judah .
    Jer_31:31

    The old covenant was ALWAYS a picture or shadow of things to come Jesus Christ

    The WHOLE bible focuses on Jesus Christ the redeemer . Much of what is written in the old covenant was of rebellion and disbelieving peoples . Some were granted mercy and believed and some did not .

    Notice how man used to live for close to 1000 years , and now in this age we in this current flesh may only get 70 years , at very most 120 years .

    Jesus Christ and ONLY Jesus Christ has the done faith , all other religions of the world are “in progress” , or men work for salvation , which is a lie .

    There is supposed to be a “progression” in the faith of Jesus Christ , but it is His Jesus Christ’s grace that salvation is NOT of works . Never has been never will , for man’s “righteousness” can NEVER benefit the Creator who never knew sin .

    We read 10 commandments Moses gave in Deut . not 7 commandments .

    They are continuing what papism did . There certainly used to be a fellowship of saints in rome , it never was the institution of papism .

    So dear papists and Jesuits who will read this maybe , come out from that branch of mystery Babylon religion , please for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake

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